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Kanye goes off bout Tidal vs Apple on Twitter

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  • usmarin3usmarin3 Posts: 38,013 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Prince's catalogue of music.

    I'd put a pretty penny on that's what this is all about.

    Kanye really shouldn't involve himself - remember how Tyrese almost fucked up the Dre deal with...

    That wont gain apple music users though. Prince fans are from a demographic that already owns all his music. And not that it's been a few months the fans who magically became prince fans after he passed are over that phase.

    The biggest issue with Tidal or Apple music trying to get fans through exclusive content is most of the power names (Jay, Bey, Kanye etc) have had their best albums behind them. This means the majority of fans own their best shit. We also pretty much know they won't ever come out with another game changing album this late in their career.

    So music release exclusives don't gain long term fans. Maybe they join a free trial for the content then are gone months later but that's it. And as far as these new niggas outside of drake none of the new niggas have a large mass part of their fanbase that will join a music service just because of a 1 week streaming exclusive. Hardcore fans will only buy the physical copy or in some cases trap out the bandwith of torrents.

    WTF the quality of music have to do with anything. Not to mention Beyonce just dropped her most critically acclaimed album. All three of those artist are consistent platinum selling artist in a business where less than 1% of artist even sell gold.

    Yet the majority of people purchased the album they didn't stream it on tidal. Same thing with Drake. Yes high stream count but he will likely remain #1 on the charts this week again due to physical sales. If beyonce fans were so moved to support her tidal exclusivity Tidal would probally have 15 million users minimum. She sells out stadiums coast to coast that go up to 100,000 seats. But maybe 3% of the crowd pay monthly for tidal.



    Negro you are dumb. How is Beyonce gonna get Tidal 15 mil subscribers when not even any of her albums have ever sold 15 mil. lol
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  • GetoBoyGetoBoy M.O.B. Posts: 3,879 ✭✭✭✭✭
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    Prince's catalogue of music.

    I'd put a pretty penny on that's what this is all about.

    Kanye really shouldn't involve himself - remember how Tyrese almost fucked up the Dre deal with...

    That wont gain apple music users though. Prince fans are from a demographic that already owns all his music. And not that it's been a few months the fans who magically became prince fans after he passed are over that phase.

    The biggest issue with Tidal or Apple music trying to get fans through exclusive content is most of the power names (Jay, Bey, Kanye etc) have had their best albums behind them. This means the majority of fans own their best shit. We also pretty much know they won't ever come out with another game changing album this late in their career.

    So music release exclusives don't gain long term fans. Maybe they join a free trial for the content then are gone months later but that's it. And as far as these new niggas outside of drake none of the new niggas have a large mass part of their fanbase that will join a music service just because of a 1 week streaming exclusive. Hardcore fans will only buy the physical copy or in some cases trap out the bandwith of torrents.

    I hear what you're saying, 1 of the many conclusions I got to was maybe Jay is trying to hold out for more money based on the Prince collection, while Apple could give zero fucks about it.

    Apple as we all know is about "brand". Whilst Jay, Bey, Kanye etc might be past their best work, they are still a brand that pull in and/or retain subscribers. Prince is a brand too.

    Ive seen how large corps like Apple operate, this is probably less about subs and about rounding up all the property they can so control. Buy out your compitiion, remove choice whilst owning all their intellectual property. Whilst the number of subs may not increase, there will also be a lot less churn.

    Also Apple is aggressively pushing for the death of physical media, and some at point (very soon) CDs will as useful as a 3.5" floppy disk. And all those users within the older demographic will likely have at least 1 Apple device (handed down iPhone etc.)

    Exactly what I'm saying... Apple is tryna corner the market and they not gonna be able to do that without the names attached to Tidal no matter how passed their prime you may think they are becuz those are the biggest brands in music so with a machine like Apple behind them they know they'll basically own the market
  • MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14MeekMonizzLLLLLLe14 Posts: 15,337 ✭✭✭✭✭
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    usmarin3 wrote: »
    Prince's catalogue of music.

    I'd put a pretty penny on that's what this is all about.

    Kanye really shouldn't involve himself - remember how Tyrese almost fucked up the Dre deal with...

    That wont gain apple music users though. Prince fans are from a demographic that already owns all his music. And not that it's been a few months the fans who magically became prince fans after he passed are over that phase.

    The biggest issue with Tidal or Apple music trying to get fans through exclusive content is most of the power names (Jay, Bey, Kanye etc) have had their best albums behind them. This means the majority of fans own their best shit. We also pretty much know they won't ever come out with another game changing album this late in their career.

    So music release exclusives don't gain long term fans. Maybe they join a free trial for the content then are gone months later but that's it. And as far as these new niggas outside of drake none of the new niggas have a large mass part of their fanbase that will join a music service just because of a 1 week streaming exclusive. Hardcore fans will only buy the physical copy or in some cases trap out the bandwith of torrents.

    WTF the quality of music have to do with anything. Not to mention Beyonce just dropped her most critically acclaimed album. All three of those artist are consistent platinum selling artist in a business where less than 1% of artist even sell gold.

    Yet the majority of people purchased the album they didn't stream it on tidal. Same thing with Drake. Yes high stream count but he will likely remain #1 on the charts this week again due to physical sales. If beyonce fans were so moved to support her tidal exclusivity Tidal would probally have 15 million users minimum. She sells out stadiums coast to coast that go up to 100,000 seats. But maybe 3% of the crowd pay monthly for tidal.



    Negro you are dumb. How is Beyonce gonna get Tidal 15 mil subscribers when not even any of her albums have ever sold 15 mil. lol

    But that just goes to show how limited of a pull the most popular modern black female artist in the world has to get people to sign up or buy something. She has 64 million facebook fans. Lets just assume half are fake accounts thats 32 mllion fans that love beyonce. But if she has never sold 15 million units look how limited her pull is to get people to pay 9.99 a month for exclusive content on a tidal. Mind you this goes for Drake on apple or anyone who drops exclusive commentary on spotify.

    These mega artists like beyonce or guns and roses or jay z or coldplay that get 50,000 people in a stadium where they have to pay at least 50 or 60 dollars just to get bad seats have limited pull to get their fans to sign up for streaming. This is why exclusive content doesn't mean much in the long term for streaming services.
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